VÉTRA Société des Véhicules et Tracteurs Electriques Paris 1925-1964 France

Vétra

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Vétra
Former type Private
Industry Transportation
Fate Bankrupt
Founded 1925
Defunct 1964
Headquarters Paris, France
Area served Worldwide
Products Trolleybuses, electric locomotives

Vétra (or Vetra), or more formally the Société des Véhicules et Tracteurs Electriques, was a French manufacturer of trolleybuses and electric locomotives. Founded in 1925, it became one of Western Europe’s largest builders of trolleybuses during the middle decades of the 20th century, making in excess of 1,750 vehicles, for cities in France and in several other countries. The company ceased production in 1964.

History

1950 Limoges Vetra VBRh trolleybus 271 in 1988Limoges was one of the last places where Vétra trolleybuses operated. This 1950-built example was photographed in 1988.

Vétra was founded in 1925 and was based in Paris. After initially experimenting with production of accumulator railcars, the company made its first trolleybus in 1927. The first Vétra trolleybuses were two vehicles, model MV, supplied to the AubagneCuges trolleybus system, which was located just east of Marseille and began operation on 22 September 1927. In the decades that followed, Vétra had a near-monopoly on French trolleybus production. Trolleybus systems operating in France also bought their fleets nearly exclusively from Vétra. From the 1930s through the 1950s, the “overwhelming majority” of trolleybuses in use on French systems were built by Vétra. On a smaller scale, the company also sold trolleybuses to systems located in other countries.

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH)

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH)

The traction motors and other electrical equipment in Vétra trolleybuses were supplied by Alsthom (now called Alstom) in all or nearly all cases, while many mechanical parts, often including chassis, came from Berliet. The vehicle bodies were fabricated by various different companies, Berliet included. In its 38 years of trolleybus production, the company made no less than 31 different models. Some were only small variations on another model. For example, the VBRh was basically the same as the VBR except was 2.9 m tall instead of 2.7 m, and the h suffix in the model number stood for “haute” (high).

1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F

1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F

Models produced included both two-axle and three-axle rigid vehicles, with large numbers of each. In its history, Vétra only built one articulated trolleybus. This was a prototype for Algiers, Algeria. Built in 1950/51, it was designated model VA4.SR and had four axles, three in the front section and one in the trailing section. It was tested on the Paris trolleybus system in January 1951. This prototype was unsuccessful, and it was eventually rebuilt into a three-axle rigid vehicle.

1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss

1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss

Vétra also made some freight vehicles for a non-passenger trolleytruck line between Villey-Saint-Étienne and Varangéville, France. It also built small electric locomotives for use on mine railways.

1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F

1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F

In 1961 Pegaso, the Spanish truck and bus maker, reached an agreement with Vetra to launch to the Spanish market a Pegaso trolleybus, called model 8010, based on Vetra technology. The operation, however, was a failure, due to the contemporary import to Spain of several tenths of ex-London Transport BUT units; and only one Pegaso 8010, with a Seida body, was ever built.

1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona

1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona

By the early 1960s, several French trolleybus systems had closed, and most of those that remained were destined to close within a few years, so were not purchasing new trolleybuses. Facing a steep decline in orders, Vétra filed for bankruptcy. Production ended in 1964, with the completion of an order for two VBH85 trolleybuses for Fribourg, Switzerland.

Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura.

Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura. Suisse.

Customers

Vétra sold trolleybuses to transit systems in 12 different countries, on three continents, including as far away as Chile. However, the majority were sold to systems in France. The overall total was in excess of 1,750, a quantity that has been matched or exceeded by only very few other trolleybus manufacturers.

Europe

1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus systemA 1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus system.

Seida Pegaso 5070 Seida Pegaso 6035 SEIDA Trolleybus 3 asser Vetra

Seida bodied three-axle Vétra trolleybus for the city of Madrid

 

The Lyon trolleybus system purchased by far the largest number of Vétra trolleybuses of any system, a total of 372, comprising seven different models. Other large buyers in France were Marseille (145, of seven different models), Paris (133), St. Etienne (78), and Limoges (43). After the closure of the Paris system, in 1966, its 38 VBF trolleybuses were sold to the Grenoble system, and 40 of its VBRh trolleybuses were sold to Limoges; 24 of the latter entered service there, and some remained in service until 1989.

Other European countries where Vétra found buyers were Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Spain and Switzerland. Most were small orders, but in Spain, 45 Vétras were purchased by Madrid and a total of 55 by Bilbao, in multiple orders.

Outside Europe

Vétra also found a good market in North Africa, where it sold to all but one of the eight trolleybus systems in operation, including Algiers,Constantine (3 separate operators) and Oran, in Algeria; Cairo, Egypt; Casablanca, Morocco; and Tunis, Tunisia. The sole exception was the system in Tétouan, Morocco, which bought all of its trolleybuses from Saurer. The trolleybuses sold to some of these systems in the 1930s were designed by Vétra but built by various other companies.

The company sold trolleybuses to a total of only two systems outside Europe and North Africa. Santiago, Chile, purchased 100 in 1952–53, and Niterói, Brazil, opened its trolleybus system with 45 Vétras in 1953. The Niteroi vehicles were model VBRh, which was Vétra’s most widely sold model in the post-war era, bought by many cities. By contrast, the Santiago vehicles were a unique model, VA2, and were approximately the same size as, and bore a strong resemblance to, trolleybuses that the Santiago system had purchased from the U.S. company Pullman-Standard in 1946–48 and 1952.

Last active examples

Lyon_trolleybus_471_in_1981A small fleet of short-chassis vehicles in Lyon were the last Vétra trolleybuses in service anywhere.

By 1983, with the retirement of St. Etienne’s last Vétra trolleybuses, Limoges and Lyon were the only systems anywhere that continued to use Vétras in service. The last active examples in Limoges were ex-Paris VBRh vehicles built in 1949–54, and these were retired in June 1989. This left the Lyon trolleybus system as the last operator of Vétra trolleybuses anywhere.

Although Lyon once had a large fleet of Vétra trolleybuses, by late 1981 all that remained were ones from a batch of 22 VBH85 trolleybuses, built jointly by Vétra and Berliet in 1963, which had a short chassis and were used only on Lyon route 6, which follows narrow streets and has hairpin turns. In 1984/85, Lyon operator TCL chose to refurbish seven of these, rather than buy a new batch of non-standard-length trolleybuses just for one route.[16] As a result, these last Vétra trolleybuses (renumbered 1701–1707) received an extended life, remaining in service until early 2000.

Preservation

More than 30 Vétra-built trolleybuses have been preserved, with 33 examples accounted for as of 2000, all but four being in France.

By operators

Some are owned by transit agencies that are currently still operate trolleybuses, but the vehicles concerned may or may not be in operating condition. The Limoges trolleybus system has preserved 1944/45 CB60 No. 18, and the Lyon system has preserved 1962 Vétra-Berliet ELR No. 10 (which is ex-Marseille 331 in 1977). The St. Etienne system has preserved three different examples: 1952 VCR No. 72, 1955 VA3B2 No. 151 (ex-Marseille 155), and 1962 VBBh/ELR No. 126.

At museums

Trolleybus Vetra-2Three restored Vétra trolleybuses on display at the Musée des transports urbains, interurbains et ruraux, in Paris

Most of the surviving Vétra trolleybuses are in the collections of museums or preservation groups. The largest number, by far, is owned by theAssociation pour le Musée des Transports Urbains, Interurbains et Ruraux (AMTUIR), in Paris, which counted 10 Vétra trolleybuses in its collection as of 2000. The Musée Provençal des Transports Urbains et Ruraux (MPTUR), in La Barque, has three Vétra trolleybuses. The Amis du Rail et des Transports de Marseille (ARTM), in Marseille, has two.

At least three Vétra trolleybuses are preserved outside France, including Limoges No. 5 (a 1943 CB60), which is owned by an individual but is kept at The Trolleybus Museum at Sandtoft, in the UK, and operates occasionally at the museum. Lyon 1704, a 1963 Vétra-Berliet VBH85, from the batch that were the very last Vétra trolleybuses in service anywhere, joined the Sandtoft collection in 2006.

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH) 1939 Vétra CS55 n° 21 Poitiers F 1943 Vetra CB60 inside 1943 Vetra CB60 trolleybus 5, 964 H 87 1943 Vetra Inside 1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F 1947 Vétra CS60 n° 53 Marseille 1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F 1950 Limoges Vetra VBRh trolleybus 271 in 1988 1950 Vétra VA3 n° 124 Perpignan 1951 VETRA VBRH (et CS35) 1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss 1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus system 1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona 1963 VETRA-BERLIET VBH85 Lyon 1972 Vetra CB 60 à Limoges 1981 Vetra ELR à Saint-Étienne Lyon_trolleybus_471_in_1981 Berliet Vetra 325 JE 06 Berliet-Vetra trolleybus, of STAS (Société de Transports de l'Agglomération Stéphanoise) St Ettiene Lyon Vetra VBH85 No. 1704 Seida Pegaso 5070 Seida Pegaso 6035 SEIDA Trolleybus 3 asser Vetra TROLLEYBUS VETRA - Ligne 183 TROLLEYBUS VETRA Logo Trolleybus Vetra-2 Vetra (Carde y Escoriaza) Spanje Vetra 4.7 Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura. Vetra 30 et 26 déclassés attendent leur sort. Vetra EH87 1704 7830 LG 69 Lyon (France) Vetra sur trolleybus CB 60 Vétra VBF n° 637 ex TAG Grenoble (Colombes - France) VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 (Badge) LYON

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Finis

SEIDA Sociedad Española de Importación y Distribución de Automóviles

Seida

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1951 Seida Metalbloc

Sociedad Española de Importación y Distribución de Automóviles (S.E.I.D.A. or, more commonly, Seida) was a Spanish cars and trucks dealer and coachbuilder that later evolved into making integral chassisless motorcoaches, and that in 1998 was subsumed into Evobus.

History

Presentació autobús Pegaso Seida

Chrysler dealer

Seida was incorporated in 1925, and began as the dealer for Spain of all the brands of Chrysler Corporation. As such, it became very well known, and in the 1930s its main showroom in Madrid, located in downtown main avenue, Gran Vía, and known as Salón Chrysler, was noted by its luxury, serving even as sporadic art gallery for some avant-garde exhibitions. By the same years, Seida opened a new rationalist repair shop and gas station building in Espronceda Street, by the renowned architect José de Azpiroz, that became a hall-mark of the modern architectural trends in Madrid.

In April 1935 Seida sponsored the show in Madrid of an american hell driver named Miller on a Plymouth car.

That same year, 1935, Seida began to assemble Chrysler’s Dodge trucks in a new plant built in Zorroza, on the docks of Bilbao. Several hundreds of them were made both before and after the Spanish Civil War.

The links with Chrysler Corporation persisted until 1969, when Chrysler Europe disembarked in Spain through the acquisition of Barreiros.

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Mobile bank office for Banco de Bilbao in a bus body built by  Seida in 1961 over a Pegaso 5040 chassis

Coachbuilder

In the 1940s, after the Spanish Civil War, Seida extended the premises in Zorroza with a new building to a Chrysler design, and switched to coachbuilding, the first bus chassis bodied being a hundred of German Klöckner units released in 1942. In those years Seida expanded its business to become shipowner, purchasing the merchant steamer Sendeja.

By the 1950s Seida lead the Spanish market of coach bodies, having patented, as Metalbloc, an all-metal body structure. By then Seida became the preferred bodybuilder for Pegaso, which was at the time the most pervasive bus and coach chassis maker in Spain. Specially memorable were its bodies for the Pegaso Z-404 coach or urban bus chassis, that used to receive a striking body which featured the same cross-shaped radiatorgrille that Touring put in its carrozzerie for the Pegaso Z-102 sports cars.

1945 autocares H-S modelo 202, carrozados por Seida para el Ejército del Aire

1945 autocares H-S modelo 202, carrozados por Seida para el Ejército del Aire

Along those years Seida other significant works were the bodies for Hispano-Suiza trolleybuses for the city of San Sebastián, Dodge two-level coaches for Iberia airliner, double-deck Guy and single-deck Pegaso buses, for the city of Madrid, and ACLO and Pegaso inter-city line coaches for Alsa. For the city of Madrid too, Seida made its most impressive bodies; namely four three-axle Vétra VA3B2 trolleybuses with GEE (General Eléctrica Española) electrical equipment.

1955 Pegaso Z-404 Seida

1955 Pegaso Z-404 Seida

Rootes and Babcock dealer

For a few years along the 50s, Seida was also dealer in Spain for the British Rootes Group car brands, and too for the short-lived Spanish-made Babcock truck.

1960 - PEGASO BUS SEIDA

1960 – PEGASO BUS SEIDA

The Kässbohrer connection

In 1963 Seida reached an agreement with German Kässbohrer to license-build Setra chassisless coaches. These were equipped with Pegaso engines and other mechanical units and were marketed with simultaneous double badge as Setra Seida and Pegaso. Initially Seida built models S14 and S10 from Setra, the first one, a full-length 12-meter 55 seat vehicle, being with a great difference the most demanded. A few years later the S154, recently launched by Setra, replaced the S14 while the S10 was discontinued.

1961 Pegaso flota tb1168 seida 9 g

1961 Pegaso flota tb1168 seida 9 g

Despite being rather expensive, these coaches were very successful in the Spanish market, to the point that Seida opened a second plant in Vigo. In the 1970s MAN, Mercedes-Benz or Cummins engines were offered as alternative power units to the Pegaso ones, and the Setra Seida and Pegaso badging was replaced by just Setra.

1961 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida

1961 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida © Isidoro Hernandez

In 1981 Seida inaugurated a new modern plant in Castro Urdiales, but soon ran into difficulties, including bitter disagreements with Kässbohrer, and suffered in the late 80s and early 90s a long and rather complex financial and legal process, which included several changes of the society registered name and ownership. The plant in Vigo meanwhile was sold to Talleres Varela Bus, a general auto repair shop.

The end

In 1998 the Castro Urdiales plant went to the hands of Daimler-Benz‘s Evobus concern and Seida successor company disappeared.

1962 Pegaso 5020 Seida 1964 Aclo 407 bus, rebodied as a single-deck bus by Seida de Bilbao in 1964 1972 Seida Pegaso del model 5062 AN 20-20  82 1974 Setra Seida S 154 ALSA 84 - Pegaso Z408 Seida Autobús Pegaso-Seida 5020 bdjs Pegaso – Seida 5061 DR Pegaso 505 Seida M-235023 137 Pegaso 5010 o 5020, eso sí Comet Seida Pegaso 5061 Comet SEIDA Pegaso 5062 Comet Seida Pegaso Comet 5633 DR Seida Pegaso Seida PEGASO Z-404 SEIDA DE MODELTRANS Pegaso Z-404 Seida Pegaso Z-408 Seida S14 Seida Vigo T. Varela Bus S.A. Saurer Unknown Seida

Saurer Seida

Seida Pegaso 5070 Seida Pegaso 6035 SEIDA Trolleybus 3 asser Setra-Seida S 154 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida Z401_Seida

Finish

Buses ENASA Empresa National de Autocamiones S.A. Espana

Buses ENASA Empresa National de Autocamiones S.A. Espana

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ENASA (Empresa Nacional de Autocamiones S.A.)

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 was a Spanish vehicle manufacturing company, incorporated in 1946 having bought the automotive assets of the Spanish arm of Hispano-Suiza. It produced trucks, buses and military armored vehicles under the Pegaso and, for a short while, Sava brands. Enasa belonged to the state-owned INI industrial holding. In 1990 Enasa was sold to Iveco.

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emblema-pegaso ENASA 2

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1948 PEGASO ENASA

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ENASA 1949

05a 1950 Pegaso ENASA MADRID-BARCELONA

1950 Pegaso ENASA MADRID-BARCELONA El Monogasco Pegaso Enasa Paris

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1950 PEGASO ENASA 01

05b 1950 Pegaso ENASA MADRID-BARCELONA

1950 Pegaso ENASA MADRID-BARCELONA

 05c 1951 Pegaso Enasa Z 403 161339-PoliciaAlHabla52

1951 Pegaso Enasa Z 403 161339-Policia Al Habla52

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Pegaso Enasa Monogasco ad

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1961 Enasa Coleccion J.A. Tartajo

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bus pegaso enasa madrid

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1963 Pegaso Enasa

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1964 ENASA PEGASO 6045xs7

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1966 Enasa 6035

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ENASA PEGASO ESPANA

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1970 PEGASO 5023-1 ENASA(5023-1-5-’70)

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1970 PEGASO 6031A 5031 ENASA 12’70

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ENASA 30

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1974 PEGASO 5031L-4 4413 12’74 ENASA

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pegaso enasa

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ENASA Pegaso 401

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 ENASA

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SAVA PEGASO ENASA

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ENASA PEGASO

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Enasa Monogasco Iberia

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Voramar 34 Pegaso 6420 Enasa – © A Gutiérrez

26a Pegaso 6050 leaving the Enasa factory at Zona Franca (Barcelona).

Pegaso 6050 leaving the Enasa factory at Zona Franca (Barcelona)

04a Boletín ENASA. 1968 firestonebusarticuladogd5

1968 Boletín ENASA. 1968 firestonebusarticuladogd5

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Pegaso-6050-Enasa BUSA-137 1998

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Buses A.C.L.O. Associated Company Lorries & Omnibuses UK

Bussen A.C.L.O. Associated Company Lorries & Omnibuses UK

Bussen ACLO

ACLO LOGO

Bussen ACLO Regel IV als proefbus voor Mexico Stad

AEC-ACLO Regel IV als proefbus voor Mexico Stad

Bussen ACLO (AEC)-Verheul Peru Lima
ACLO (AEC)-Verheul Peru Lima ©BCVM
Bussen ACLO = AEC South America 1938 Uraguay a

ACLO = AEC South America 1938 Uraguay (zie ook onder CUTSCA)

Bussen ACLO = AEC South America 1938 Uraguay b

ACLO = AEC South America 1938 Uraguay (zie ook later bij CUTSCA)

Vandaag een hoofdstuk over ACLO. Eigenlijk gaat het over AEC (Associated Equipment Company) en Verheul, maar het gaat om een bedrijf wat speciaal is opgericht door AEC om bussen voor Zuid Amerika te maken. Alles bij elkaar was dat achteraf gezien niet zo’n heel groot succes, want de bussen die het in Engeland en bijvoorbeeld Nederland voortreffelijk deden bleken slecht tegen het warme vochtige klimaat van Zuid Amerika te kunnen, dus uiteindelijk gingen ze niet lang mee, en kom je ze tot de dag van vandaag vaker als bouwkeet, of garage of als woning tegen dan als bus. Ze werden over het algemeen ook ingekort. De gemiddelde lengte was in Nederland zo’n 12 meter en speciaal voor Zuid Amerika werden ze omgebouwd tot een meter of 10, en vaak werd de moter naar achteren verplaatst.

Bussen ACLO Cuctsa-River 1961

ACLO Cuctsa-River 1961

Bussen ACLO-Verheul 03 AEC-VERHEUL bussen lijkt. Duidelijk zien we dat de wagen de motor achterin heeft en let vooral op de lengte die zeker een stuk korter

ACLO-Verheul 03 AEC . Duidelijk zien we dat de wagen de motor achterin heeft en let vooral op de lengte die zeker een stuk korter lijkt.

Bussen Aclo Regent III (Seida) 1962 Spanje
Aclo Regent III (zie ook bij Seida) 1962 Spanje

 Bussen Aclo Regent Mark III. 125 HP

Aclo Regent Mark III. 125 HP

Bussen ACLO Leyland EL40 de AMDET

ACLO Leyland EL40 de AMDET

Bussen ACLO Regal Geronimo Gnecco de El Condor 1042

ACLO Regal Geronimo Gnecco de (zie ook carroserie El Condor) 1042

Bussen ACLO Cutcsa National

ACLO Cutcsa National

Bussen ACLO mark IV = URUQUAY AEC Verheul

ACLO mark IV = URUQUAY AEC Verheul

Bussen ACLO of Leyland Argentina
ACLO of Leyland Argentina
Bussen ACLO Afiche GrupoACLO Afiche Grupo
Bussen Aclo ex Cutcsa 499
Aclo ex Cutcsa 499
Bussen Aclo Mark IV VerheulAclo Mark IV Verheul
Bussen Aclo Mark VI coche 22 de CUTU
Aclo Mark VI coche 22 de CUTU
Bussen Aclo Verheul Coba 02 Aclo Verheul Coba

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