Buses GUY Wolverhampton England UK

Buses GUY Wolverhampton England UK

GUY       Guy Motors logo

Guy Motors was a Wolverhampton-based vehicle manufacturer that produced cars, lorries, buses and trolleybuses. The company was founded by Sydney S. Guy (1885-1971) who was born in Kings Heath, Birmingham. Guy Motors operated out of its Fallings Park factory from 1914 to 1982, playing an important role in the development of the British motor industry.

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1953 Guy GS bus built for London Transport1953 Guy GS bus built for London Transport

History

Foundation and the First World War

Sydney S. Guy registered Guy Motors Limited on Saturday 30 May 1914, the same day he departed his position as Works Manager at the Wolverhampton company, Sunbeam. A factory was built on the site at Fallings Park, Wolverhampton. and by September 1914 production was underway on the newly designed 30cwt lorry. This employed a much lighter form of pressed steel frame, unlike the more commonly used heavy rolled steel channel frames of the time. This made the vehicle able to cross difficult terrain and a 14 seat poster bus built based on the design was used for crossing the Scottish Highlands.

Guy's 14 seater bus designed for use in the highlands

1914 Guy’s 14 seater bus designed for use in the highlands

In 1915 Guy came under control of the Ministry of Munitions and production was focused on the war effort. The factory continued to produce 30cwt lorries which were supplied to Britain’s allies in the First World War. They also produced Wasp and Dragonfly radial aircraft engines, Tylor truck engines and Maudslay gearboxes as well as being the country’s largest maker of depth charge fuzes. For their efforts during the war Guy received a commendation from William Weir, Secretary of State for Air. Due to orders from the ministry Guy prospered during the war, expanding its factory and became an established name in British manufacturing.

1920s

The post-war period was difficult for the motor industry as military contracts were cancelled and military vehicles no longer required for service were sold onto the market at low prices. Guy returned to the civilian market, deciding to make luxury cars with a design by RH Rose, also from Sunbeam. They produced the Guy 8-cylinder car, powered by the first British V8 engine and featuring horizontal side valves. Around 25 of these were made and it was joined by a smaller model in 1922 with the 2465 cc four-cylinder 16.9 hp. A cheaper model followed in 1924 with the 1954 cc 13/36 with an engine from Coventry Climax. About 110 of the 4-cylinder models are thought to have been made. Production also continued on vehicles based on the 30cwt chassis such as the Guy charabanc and their major success the 30 seater bus.

In 1924 the company adopted the slogan ‘Feathers in our Cap’ which led to the addition of a Native American mascot to their vehicles. 1924 also saw Guy produce the first ever dropped frame chassis for passenger vehicles (the B-type). This design allowed passengers to enter buses in a single step and became extremely popular, Guy receiving an order for 170 from Rio de Janeiro.

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Growing populations in towns and cities meant larger capacity buses were a necessity, leading Guy to develop a 6-wheeled version of their dropped-frame chassis which allowed for the introduction of the first 6-wheeled double decker buses and 6 wheeled trolleybuses in 1926. Guy double decker buses and trolleybuses would prove popular with a fleet of double deckers sold to the London Public Omnibus Company and exports supplied all around the world. Exports served as a major source of income for Guy with sales to South Africa, Pakistan, India and the Netherlands, their armoured vehicles proving particularly popular for covering difficult terrain with 100 supplied to the Indian government in 1928.

1923 Guy's first military vehicleGuy’s first military vehicle produced in 1923

In 1928 Guy took control of fellow Wolverhampton manufacturer the Star Motor Company, who had seen declining sales throughout the decade, in an attempt to expand their luxury car manufacturing. Under Guy, Star Motors moved to a new factory in Bushbury and the range of vehicles was narrowed to prevent competition against itself. Despite this Star continued to struggle and a loss was made on every car sold. The Wall Street Crash had a crippling effect on industry and the subsequent recession meant Guy could no longer afford to fit out Star’s Bushbury plant and in 1932 the company entered receivership.

Despite performing well throughout the decade, by the end of the 1920s Guy was facing an uncertain future due to the takeover of Star and the Wall Street Crash which had seen share prices fall from one pound to one shilling.

1930s

Guy was able to endure the depression due to orders from the war office and by taking advantage of the 1930 Road Traffic Act which encouraged the development of lighter vehicles. In 1933 the Arab bus chassis, designed for use with diesel engines, was launched and would prove a mainstay of Guy’s success for the next twenty years.

From the mid-1930s, the company became increasingly involved in the British rearmament programme, developing and producing military vehicles. In 1935 Guy submitted their new four wheel Ant armoured car to military trials where it impressed and 150 were ordered by the government. After this success Guy began to concentrate solely on the production of military vehicles and by 1938 Guy relied exclusively on Government contracts and had ended civilian productions. During this time Guy designed a new armoured car, the Quad Ant, which was welded rather than riveted together. This development made armoured vehicles much safer and is reported to have saved the British government £100 million, earning Guy a commendation from the Royal Commission.

1914 Guy Syzygies

1914 Guy Syzygies

1914 Guy Syzygies 2

1914 Guy Syzygies

1914 Guy Syzygies 3

1914 Guy Syzygies

1914 Guy Syzygies 4

1914 Guy Syzygies

1914 Guy's 14 seater bus designed for use in the highlands

1919 Guy Charabanc

1919 Guy Charabanc T-5182

1921 Guy 30-seater bus

1921 Guy 30-seater bus

1921 Guy coaches in Wolverhampton Market place

1921 Guy coaches in Wolverhampton Market place

1922 Guy Promenade Runabout

1922 Guy Promenade Runabout

1924 Guy six-wheelers in Rio de Janeiro

1924 Guy six-wheelers in Rio de Janeiro

1925 Guy first six wheeled pneumatic Trolley Bus

1925 Guy first six wheeled pneumatic Trolley Bus

1925 Guy Motors

1925 Guy Motors

1925 Guy Rio 1925

1925 Guy Rio 1925

1927 Guy 6 wheeled Londonbus

1927 Guy 6 wheeled Londonbus

1927 Guy 26 seater

1927 Guy 26 seater

1927 Guy FBB (chassis number 22257) with a Hall Lewis B32R body

1927 Guy FBB (chassis number 22257) with a Hall Lewis B32R body

1927 Guy Star Flyer

1927 Guy Star Flyer

1928 Guy 6 wheeled double deck long distance sleeper coach

1928 Guy 6 wheeled double deck long distance sleeper coach

1928 Guy BT Dodson DY 4965 in Hastings

1928 Guy BT Dodson DY 4965 in Hastings

1929 Guy phptbyWrK

1929 Guy php

1930 Guy FC of Newcastle Corporation

1930 Guy FC of Newcastle Corporation

1930 Guy Motors

1930 Guy Motors

1930 guy-vixen-05

1930 guy-vixen

1931 Guy 'BTX' Zuid Africa

1931 Guy ‘BTX’ Zuid Africa

1931 Guy Trolleybus op weg naar Japan

1931 Guy Trolleybus op weg naar Japan

1932 Guy Open coach

1932 Guy Open coach

1933 Guy Trolleybus adv1

1933 Guy Trolleybus adv1

1933 Guy

1933 Guy NL

1934 Guy Wolf Guy GR-1157

1934 Guy Wolf Guy GR-1157

1936 Guy Trolleybus  adv

1936 Guy Trolleybus  adv

1937 Guy Arab

1937 Guy Arab

1937 Guy Wolf with Martin body

1937 Guy Wolf with Martin body

1938 Guy Wolf with 20 seat bodywork by Waveney

1938 Guy Wolf with 20 seat bodywork by Waveney

1943 Guy Arab I JUA762 Pickering H30 26R Re bodied ROE H31-25R (2)

1943 Guy Arab I JUA762 Pickering H30 26R Re bodied ROE H31-25R

1943 Guy Arab I JUA762 Pickering H30 26R Re bodied ROE H31-25R

1943 Guy Arab I JUA762 Pickering H30 26R Re bodied ROE H31-25R

1943 Guy Arab II new in 1943 as a double decker, later an open top decker similar to 39

1943 Guy Arab II as a double decker, later an open top decker similar to 39

1946 Guy Arab III with Massey C35F body new to W. Alexander

1946 Guy Arab III with Massey C35F body new to W. Alexander

1946 Guy Arab Massey TSB019

1946 Guy Arab Massey TSB019

1946 Guy Arab Seamer Service

1946 Guy Arab Seamer Service

1946 Guy Arab with Brush B35F body

1946 Guy Arab with Brush B35F body

1946 Guy Vixen Hainje B-22878

1946 Guy Vixen Hainje B-22878 NL

1946 Guy-Arab bus 84 met carrosserie van Verheul. Dienstbus Almelo-Glanerbrug op de weg Borne-Hengelo. Opname verm. 1949.

1946 Guy-Arab bus 84 met carrosserie van Verheul. Dienstbus

1947 Guy Arab (Seida)

1947 Guy Arab (Seida)

1947 Guy Arab III with Duple C35F body

1947 Guy Arab III with Duple C35F body

1947 Guy Arab Verheul NB-34-13

1947 Guy Arab Verheul NB-34-13 NL

1947 Guy first post war Trolley Bus Belfast Corporation

1947 Guy first post war Trolley Bus Belfast Corporation

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders GTW 30

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr. Saunders GTW 30 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 32

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 32 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 33

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 33 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 34

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 34 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 35

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 35 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 36

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 36 NL

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 37

1947 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Saunders-de Schelde GTW 37 NL

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Individually built bus advert

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Individually built bus advert

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Newport buses bus advert

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Newport buses bus advert

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Southampton Guy Arab bus advert

1947 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton, Southampton Guy Arab bus advert

1947 Guy Saunders Tet 075

1947 Guy Saunders Tet 075 NL

1947 guy-arab-01

1947 guy-arab

1947 Guy-Vixen. Carrosserie Bos(linker bus)

1947 Guy-Vixen. Carrosserie v d Bos(linker bus) NL

1947-52 Guy carr. Den Oudsten NB-21-69

1947-52 Guy carr. Den Oudsten NB-21-69 NL

1947-52 Guy Mk III  NB-01-40

1947-52 Guy Vixen carr. Verheul NB-28-40 NL

1948 Guy Arab 16 Brian Shaw

1948 Guy Arab 16 Brian Shaw

1948 Guy Arab 16

1948 Guy Arab 16

1948 Guy Arab 21 Brian Shaw

1948 Guy Arab 21 Brian Shaw

1948 Guy Arab 37

1948 Guy Arab 37

1948 Guy Arab carr. Verheul NB-28-54

1948 Guy Arab carr. Verheul NB-28-54

1948 Guy Arab Fleet LUT&PC 22

1948 Guy Arab Fleet LUT&PC 22

1948 Guy Arab Fleet of Maidstone Corporation Transport Department 26

1948 Guy Arab Fleet of Maidstone Corporation Transport Department 26

1948 Guy Arab Fleet of Newport Corporation Transport 24

1948 Guy Arab Fleet of Newport Corporation Transport 24

1948 Guy Arab Glasgow Corporation Transport Fleet 23

1948 Guy Arab Glasgow Corporation Transport Fleet 23

1948 Guy Arab I 136

1948 Guy Arab I 136

1948 Guy Arab III with an MCW 35 seat body

1948 Guy Arab III with an MCW 35 seat body

1948 Guy Arab III with MCW 35 seat rear entrance body.

1948 Guy Arab III with MCW 35 seat rear entrance body.

1948 Guy Arab IV African Transport Limited Kenya 30

1948 Guy Arab IV African Transport Limited Kenya 30

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV Hong Kong China Bus Company Limeted 34

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV Hong Kong China Bus Company Limeted 34

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV South Africa 35

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV South Africa 35 Greyhound

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV Southdown Motor services Limeted 32

1948 Guy Arab Mark IV Southdown Motor services Limited 32

1948 Guy Arab Mk III 19 6 1957 Verheul 1948 TET 88 E-45960

1948 Guy Arab Mk III 19 6 1957 Verheul 1948 TET 88 E-45960 NL

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 320

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 320 NL

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 324

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 321 NL

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 328

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 324 NL

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 328 NL

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW 321

1948 Guy Arab MkIII, Gardner 6LW, carr. Verheul GTW NL

1948 Guy Arab Single decker 2

1948 Guy Arab Single decker 2

1948 Guy Arab single decker vehicle5

1948 Guy Arab single decker vehicle

1948 Guy Arab Single Decker

1948 Guy Arab Single Decker

1948 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Verheul GTW 39

1948 Guy Gardner 6LW Arab MkIII carr Verheul GTW 39 NL

1948 Guy met Verheul carr. uit de serie 82 tm 84 uit 1948  werd in 1953 verbouwd . De achterkant is verheul en front is _

1948 Guy met Verheul carr. uit de serie 82 tm 84 uit 1948  werd in 1953 verbouwd . De achterkant is verheul NL

1948 Guy Otters were never common and ones with Alexander bodywork rarer still

1948 Guy Otters were never common and ones with Alexander bodywork rarer still

1948 Guy Vixen  coach

1948 Guy Vixen  coach

1948 Guy Wolf chassis carries a Barnard body

1948 Guy Wolf chassis carries a Barnard body

1948 Guy-Arab met carrosserie Saunders (Engeland)

1948 Guy-Arab met carrosserie Saunders  NL

1948 guy-arab-03

1948 guy-arab dd

1948 guy-arab-04

1948 guy-arab 440

1948 guy-arab-06

1948 guy-arab 440

1948 guy-arab-08

1948 guy-arab dd

1948 Guy-bus 23 erachter Crossley- Scheldebus 20 (NS 1065) op 12 september 1948 vliegveld Beek en EBAD

1948 Guy-bus 23 erachter Crossley- Scheldebus 20 (NS 1065) op 12 september 1948 vliegveld Beek en EBAD NL

1948 The Arab Mark IV, Guy's most successful bus design

1948 The Arab Mark IV, Guy’s most successful bus design

1948 The Sunbeam Double-Decker Trolleybus

1948 The Sunbeam Double-Decker Trolleybus

1949 burlingham guy coach rmJWX126

1949 burlingham guy coach

1949 Guy Arab III 6LW with Park Royal H30-26R body

1949 Guy Arab III 6LW with Park Royal H30-26R body

1949 Guy Arab III, fleet number 10 (KTC 615)

1949 Guy Arab III, fleet number 10 (KTC 615)

1950 Guy Arab III-Harkness Coachworks B31F (may be B30F now) 286, MZ7384

1949 Guy Arab IV

1950 Guy Arab Mark IV

1949 Guy Arab IV

1950 Guy Arab Mk III

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1949 Guy Arab MK 5

1949 Guy Arab MK 5

1949 Guy Arab MKIII Gardner 6 LW carr Hainje GTW 329

1949 Guy Arab MKIII Gardner 6 LW carr Hainje GTW 329 NL

1949 Guy Arab IV

1949 Guy Arab MK 5

1949 Guy ArabIII-Brislington BusWorks

1949 Guy ArabIII-Brislington Bus Works

1949 Guy Motors

1949 Guy Motors adv.

1949 Guy Vixen carrosserie Den Oudsten

1949 Guy Vixen carrosserie Den Oudsten NL

1949 guy-arab-07

1949 guy-arab

1949-53 Guy-Jongman NB-56-18

1949-53 Guy-carr. Jongman NB-56-18 NL

1950 Guy Arab III with Guy B33R bodywork

1950 Guy Arab III with Guy B33R bodywork

1950 Guy Arab III-Harkness Coachworks B31F (may be B30F now) 286, MZ7384

1950 Guy Arab III-Harkness Coachworks B31F (may be B30F now) 286, MZ7384

1950 Guy Arab III-Harkness

1950 Guy Arab III-Harkness

1950 Guy Arab Mark IV

1950 Guy Arab Mark IV

1950 Guy Arab MK IV South Africa 37

1950 Guy Arab MK IV South Africa 37

1950 Guy Arab UF with Guy B40F body (using Park Royal framework)

1950 Guy Arab UF with Guy B40F body (using Park Royal framework)

1950 Guy Arab V double deck bus

1950 Guy Arab V double deck bus

1950 Guy Motors

1950 Guy Motors

1950 Guy Vixen Overland Firms 59

1950 Guy Vixen Overland Firms 59

1950 Guy Vixen

1950 Guy Vixen NL

1950 guy-arab-02

1950 guy-arab

1950 guy-arab-05

1950 guy-arab

1950 Guy-Vixen

1950 Guy-Vixen NL

1951 Guy Arab III with a Windover C33F body

1951 Guy Arab III with a Windover C33F body

1951 Guy Arab III with rare Roe coach body

1951 Guy Arab III with rare Roe coach body

1951 Guy Arab III with unusual Roe coach body

1951 Guy Arab III with unusual Roe coach body

1951 Guy Arab UF fitted from new with a preselector gearbox and carried a Guy B40F body.

1951 Guy Arab UF fitted from new with a preselector gearbox and carried a Guy B40F body.

1951 Guy-Arab 76 met carrosserie van Hondebrink. Opname 1955 tijdens toerwagenral

1951 Guy-Arab 76 met carrosserie van Hondebrink. Opname 1955 tijdens toerwagenral NL

1951 Guy-Vixen. Carrosserie. Hainje

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1952 Guy Arab III with Roe B41C bodywork

1952 Guy Arab III with Roe B41C bodywork

1952 Guy Arab LUF with Weymann B44F body

1952 Guy Arab LUF with Weymann B44F body

1952 Guy Arab Underfloor engined single deck Huddersfield 43 seater bus 4

1952 Guy Arab Underfloor engined single deck Huddersfield 43 seater bus 4

1952 Guy GS - MXX 342

1952 Guy GS – MXX 342

1952 Guy Otters with rare Mulliner bodywork

1952 Guy Otters with rare Mulliner bodywork

1952 Guy Underfloor Verheul  Jac. van Dijk nr 58 NB-06-72

1952 Guy Underfloor Verheul  Jac. van Dijk nr 58 NB-06-72 NL

1952 Guy Vixen GS13 at Amersham E

1952 Guy Vixen Wadham

1952 Guy Vixen Wadham

1952 Guy-Arab 89 met carrosserie van Verheul. Met 45 zit en 10 staanplaatsen. Opname grens Glanerbrug in 1954 NL

1952 Guy-Arab 89 met carrosserie van Verheul. Met 45 zit en 10 staanplaatsen. Opname grens Glanerbrug in 1954

1952 Guy-Arab nr. 86 met carrosserie van Verheul NL

1952 Guy-Arab nr. 86 met carrosserie van Verheul

1952 guy-otter

1952 guy-otter-04

1952 guy-otter

1952 guy-otter-07

1953 Guy Otter

1953 Guy Arab 88 met carrosserie van Verheul.

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1953 Guy Arab bus 60

1953 Guy Arab bus 60

1953 Guy Arab III with Roe B41C bodywork

1953-guy-arab-iii-with-roe-b41c-bodywork

1953 Guy GS MXX-343ECW B26F Kerel

1953 Guy GS MXX-343ECW B26F Kerel

1953 GUY Otter Diesel light vehicle12

1953 GUY Otter Diesel light vehicle12

1953 Guy Special NLLVP with ECW B26F body

1953 Guy Special NLLVP with ECW B26F body

1953 Guy Special NLLVP with ECW B26F bodywork

1953 Guy Special with ECW B26F bodywork

1953 Guy Special with ECW B26F bodywork

1953 Guy Special NLLVP with ECW B26F bodywork

1953 Guy Vixen 30 seater vehicle 4

1953 Guy Vixen 30 seater vehicle 4

1953 Guy Vixen London Transport GS84 and GS76

1953 Guy Vixen London Transport GS84 and GS76

1953 Guys with ECW B26F bodies for use on low traffic country area routes

1953 Guys with ECW B26F bodies for use on low traffic country area routes

1953 Guys with ECW B26F bodies

1953 Guys with ECW B26F bodies

1954 Guy Arab Lighteight heavy duty underfloor engined coach

1954 Guy Arab Lighteight heavy duty underfloor engined coach

1954 Guy Arab LUF with a Guy B43F body

1954 Guy Arab LUF with a Guy B43F body

1954 Guy Arab LUF with Picktree C35F body

1954 Guy Arab LUF with Picktree C35F body

1954 Guy Arab LUF with rare Picktree Continental C35F body

1954 Guy Arab LUF with rare Picktree Continental C35F body

1954 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton advert 2

1954 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton advert

1954 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton advert 3

1954 Guy Motors of Wolverhampton advert

1954 Guy Otter with a Roe B25F body

1954 Guy Otter with a Roe B25F body

1954 Guy Sunbeam Trolley Double Deck Bus Walsall Corporation

1954 Guy Sunbeam Trolley Double Deck Bus Walsall Corporation

1954 Guy Warrior 43 seater Trambus with AEC 6cyl 135 bhp engine

1954 Guy Warrior 43 seater Trambus with AEC 6cyl 135 bhp engine

1954 Guy-bus 8 van de EBAD met Den Oudsten carrosserie

1954 Guy-bus 8 van de EBAD met Den Oudsten carrosserie NL

1955 Guy Arab LUF with Alexander C41F bodywork

1955 Guy Arab LUF with Alexander C41F bodywork

1955 Guy Arab LUF

1955 Guy Arab LUF

1955 Guy Arab LUFs, fitted with Roe B34C+24 bodies

1955 Guy Arab LUFs, fitted with Roe B34C+24 bodies

1955 Guy Arab Mark IV East kent Road car Company Limited 31

1955 Guy Arab Mark IV East kent Road car Company Limited 31

1955 Guy Warrior LUF Coach 3

1955 Guy Warrior LUF Coach 3

1955 Guy Warrior with Burlingham C41F body

1955 Guy Warrior with Burlingham C41F body

1955 guy-s ad

1955 guy-s ad

1956 Guy Arab LUFs with Willowbrook C37C bodies

1956 Guy Arab LUFs with Willowbrook C37C bodies

1956 Guy Arab Mark IV Belgium 36

1956 Guy Arab Mark IV Belgium 36

1956 Guy Arab, with Park Royal body

1956 Guy Arab, with Park Royal body

1956 Guy Kusters-bus, de EBAD 91

1956 Guy Kusters-bus, de EBAD 91

1956 Guy Raghano België

1956 Guy Raghano België

1956 Guy Seal Small capacity tourist coach 1

1956 Guy Seal Small capacity tourist coach 1

1956 Guy Warrior, XUK768, with Mulliner C37C body

1956 Guy Warrior, XUK768, with Mulliner C37C body

1957 Guy Arab LUF with Roe B41R body

1957 Guy Arab LUF with Roe B41R body

1957 GUY België

1957 GUY Jonckheere België

1957 Guy Arab Toerwagen 88  met carrosserie van Verheul

1957 Guy Arab Toerwagen 88 met carrosserie van Verheul

1957 Guy Otter P6 with Mulliner B26F bodywork

1957 Guy Otter P6 with Mulliner B26F bodywork

1957 Guy Vixen car.

1957 Guy Vixen

1958 Guy Arab LUFs with Longwell Green B44F bodies, XNY419

1958 Guy Arab LUFs with Longwell Green B44F bodies, XNY419

1958 Guy LUF with Longwell Green B44F body

1958 Guy LUF with Longwell Green B44F body

1958 Guy UF with Burlingham Seagull C41F body

1958 Guy UF with Burlingham Seagull C41F body

1958 Guy Victory Trambus 2

1958 Guy Victory Trambus

1958 Guy Victory Trambus 5

1958 Guy Victory Trambus

1958 Guy Victory UF 44 till 65 seater Luxery Touring Coach Victory 2

1958 Guy Victory UF 44 till 65 seater Luxery Touring Coach Victory 2

1958 Guy Victory

1958 Guy Victory

1958 Guy Warrior Gardner 5HLW oil engine 2

1958 Guy Warrior Gardner 5HLW oil engine 2

1958 Guy Wulfrunian

1958 Guy Wulfrunian

1958 Guy-Arab nr. 89 met carrosserie van Verheul. De bus had 45 zit en 10 staanplaatsen

1958 Guy-Arab nr. 89 met carrosserie van Verheul. De bus had 45 zit en 10 staanplaatsen

1958 guy-victory-02

1958 guy-victory

1958 guy-victory-03

1958 guy-victory

1958 guy-victory-05

1958 guy-victory

1959 GUY 1460

1959 GUY 1460

1959 Guy Arab LUF Powered by a Gardner 6HLW engine Registration 1294 RE

1959 Guy Arab LUF Powered by a Gardner 6HLW engine Registration 1294 RE

1960 GUY J- Type

1960 GUY J- Type

1960 Guy Warrior coach vehicle21

1960 Guy Warrior coach vehicle 21

1960 guy-victory-01

1960 guy-victory

1961 Guy Arab III-Strachen-HighlandTrans.G.Rixon2

1961 Guy Arab III-Strachen-Highland Trans.G.Rixon2

1961 Guy Wulfrunians with Roe H43-32F body

1961 Guy Wulfrunians with Roe H43-32F body

1963 Guy Arab IV with Massey lowbridge body

1963 Guy Arab IV with Massey lowbridge body

1964 Guy Conquest Luxery Coach

1964 Guy Conquest Luxery Coach

1965 Guy Conquest Luxery Coach with AEC AV505 Gardner 6LX or 6LW Victory Trambus

1965 Guy Conquest Luxery Coach with AEC AV505 Gardner 6LX or 6LW Victory Trambus

Guy Victory 40-45 seat

1960 Guy Victory 40-45 seat

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GUY DD

Guy Arab - FRU 224

Guy Arab – FRU 224

Guy buses

Guy buses

1967 Guy -ZABO Bus

1967 Guy -ZABO NL © AvdBorg&CBos

1978 Guy Victory U F Victory 1

1978 Guy Victory U F Victory 1 ?

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VÉTRA Société des Véhicules et Tracteurs Electriques Paris 1925-1964 France

Vétra

  TROLLEYBUS VETRA Logo
Vétra
Former type Private
Industry Transportation
Fate Bankrupt
Founded 1925
Defunct 1964
Headquarters Paris, France
Area served Worldwide
Products Trolleybuses, electric locomotives

Vétra (or Vetra), or more formally the Société des Véhicules et Tracteurs Electriques, was a French manufacturer of trolleybuses and electric locomotives. Founded in 1925, it became one of Western Europe’s largest builders of trolleybuses during the middle decades of the 20th century, making in excess of 1,750 vehicles, for cities in France and in several other countries. The company ceased production in 1964.

History

1950 Limoges Vetra VBRh trolleybus 271 in 1988Limoges was one of the last places where Vétra trolleybuses operated. This 1950-built example was photographed in 1988.

Vétra was founded in 1925 and was based in Paris. After initially experimenting with production of accumulator railcars, the company made its first trolleybus in 1927. The first Vétra trolleybuses were two vehicles, model MV, supplied to the AubagneCuges trolleybus system, which was located just east of Marseille and began operation on 22 September 1927. In the decades that followed, Vétra had a near-monopoly on French trolleybus production. Trolleybus systems operating in France also bought their fleets nearly exclusively from Vétra. From the 1930s through the 1950s, the “overwhelming majority” of trolleybuses in use on French systems were built by Vétra. On a smaller scale, the company also sold trolleybuses to systems located in other countries.

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH)

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH)

The traction motors and other electrical equipment in Vétra trolleybuses were supplied by Alsthom (now called Alstom) in all or nearly all cases, while many mechanical parts, often including chassis, came from Berliet. The vehicle bodies were fabricated by various different companies, Berliet included. In its 38 years of trolleybus production, the company made no less than 31 different models. Some were only small variations on another model. For example, the VBRh was basically the same as the VBR except was 2.9 m tall instead of 2.7 m, and the h suffix in the model number stood for “haute” (high).

1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F

1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F

Models produced included both two-axle and three-axle rigid vehicles, with large numbers of each. In its history, Vétra only built one articulated trolleybus. This was a prototype for Algiers, Algeria. Built in 1950/51, it was designated model VA4.SR and had four axles, three in the front section and one in the trailing section. It was tested on the Paris trolleybus system in January 1951. This prototype was unsuccessful, and it was eventually rebuilt into a three-axle rigid vehicle.

1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss

1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss

Vétra also made some freight vehicles for a non-passenger trolleytruck line between Villey-Saint-Étienne and Varangéville, France. It also built small electric locomotives for use on mine railways.

1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F

1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F

In 1961 Pegaso, the Spanish truck and bus maker, reached an agreement with Vetra to launch to the Spanish market a Pegaso trolleybus, called model 8010, based on Vetra technology. The operation, however, was a failure, due to the contemporary import to Spain of several tenths of ex-London Transport BUT units; and only one Pegaso 8010, with a Seida body, was ever built.

1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona

1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona

By the early 1960s, several French trolleybus systems had closed, and most of those that remained were destined to close within a few years, so were not purchasing new trolleybuses. Facing a steep decline in orders, Vétra filed for bankruptcy. Production ended in 1964, with the completion of an order for two VBH85 trolleybuses for Fribourg, Switzerland.

Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura.

Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura. Suisse.

Customers

Vétra sold trolleybuses to transit systems in 12 different countries, on three continents, including as far away as Chile. However, the majority were sold to systems in France. The overall total was in excess of 1,750, a quantity that has been matched or exceeded by only very few other trolleybus manufacturers.

Europe

1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus systemA 1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus system.

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Seida bodied three-axle Vétra trolleybus for the city of Madrid

 

The Lyon trolleybus system purchased by far the largest number of Vétra trolleybuses of any system, a total of 372, comprising seven different models. Other large buyers in France were Marseille (145, of seven different models), Paris (133), St. Etienne (78), and Limoges (43). After the closure of the Paris system, in 1966, its 38 VBF trolleybuses were sold to the Grenoble system, and 40 of its VBRh trolleybuses were sold to Limoges; 24 of the latter entered service there, and some remained in service until 1989.

Other European countries where Vétra found buyers were Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Spain and Switzerland. Most were small orders, but in Spain, 45 Vétras were purchased by Madrid and a total of 55 by Bilbao, in multiple orders.

Outside Europe

Vétra also found a good market in North Africa, where it sold to all but one of the eight trolleybus systems in operation, including Algiers,Constantine (3 separate operators) and Oran, in Algeria; Cairo, Egypt; Casablanca, Morocco; and Tunis, Tunisia. The sole exception was the system in Tétouan, Morocco, which bought all of its trolleybuses from Saurer. The trolleybuses sold to some of these systems in the 1930s were designed by Vétra but built by various other companies.

The company sold trolleybuses to a total of only two systems outside Europe and North Africa. Santiago, Chile, purchased 100 in 1952–53, and Niterói, Brazil, opened its trolleybus system with 45 Vétras in 1953. The Niteroi vehicles were model VBRh, which was Vétra’s most widely sold model in the post-war era, bought by many cities. By contrast, the Santiago vehicles were a unique model, VA2, and were approximately the same size as, and bore a strong resemblance to, trolleybuses that the Santiago system had purchased from the U.S. company Pullman-Standard in 1946–48 and 1952.

Last active examples

Lyon_trolleybus_471_in_1981A small fleet of short-chassis vehicles in Lyon were the last Vétra trolleybuses in service anywhere.

By 1983, with the retirement of St. Etienne’s last Vétra trolleybuses, Limoges and Lyon were the only systems anywhere that continued to use Vétras in service. The last active examples in Limoges were ex-Paris VBRh vehicles built in 1949–54, and these were retired in June 1989. This left the Lyon trolleybus system as the last operator of Vétra trolleybuses anywhere.

Although Lyon once had a large fleet of Vétra trolleybuses, by late 1981 all that remained were ones from a batch of 22 VBH85 trolleybuses, built jointly by Vétra and Berliet in 1963, which had a short chassis and were used only on Lyon route 6, which follows narrow streets and has hairpin turns. In 1984/85, Lyon operator TCL chose to refurbish seven of these, rather than buy a new batch of non-standard-length trolleybuses just for one route.[16] As a result, these last Vétra trolleybuses (renumbered 1701–1707) received an extended life, remaining in service until early 2000.

Preservation

More than 30 Vétra-built trolleybuses have been preserved, with 33 examples accounted for as of 2000, all but four being in France.

By operators

Some are owned by transit agencies that are currently still operate trolleybuses, but the vehicles concerned may or may not be in operating condition. The Limoges trolleybus system has preserved 1944/45 CB60 No. 18, and the Lyon system has preserved 1962 Vétra-Berliet ELR No. 10 (which is ex-Marseille 331 in 1977). The St. Etienne system has preserved three different examples: 1952 VCR No. 72, 1955 VA3B2 No. 151 (ex-Marseille 155), and 1962 VBBh/ELR No. 126.

At museums

Trolleybus Vetra-2Three restored Vétra trolleybuses on display at the Musée des transports urbains, interurbains et ruraux, in Paris

Most of the surviving Vétra trolleybuses are in the collections of museums or preservation groups. The largest number, by far, is owned by theAssociation pour le Musée des Transports Urbains, Interurbains et Ruraux (AMTUIR), in Paris, which counted 10 Vétra trolleybuses in its collection as of 2000. The Musée Provençal des Transports Urbains et Ruraux (MPTUR), in La Barque, has three Vétra trolleybuses. The Amis du Rail et des Transports de Marseille (ARTM), in Marseille, has two.

At least three Vétra trolleybuses are preserved outside France, including Limoges No. 5 (a 1943 CB60), which is owned by an individual but is kept at The Trolleybus Museum at Sandtoft, in the UK, and operates occasionally at the museum. Lyon 1704, a 1963 Vétra-Berliet VBH85, from the batch that were the very last Vétra trolleybuses in service anywhere, joined the Sandtoft collection in 2006.

1939 VETRA CS35 (et VBRH) 1939 Vétra CS55 n° 21 Poitiers F 1943 Vetra CB60 inside 1943 Vetra CB60 trolleybus 5, 964 H 87 1943 Vetra Inside 1943 Vétra-Berliet CB60 n° 10 Limoges F 1947 Vétra CS60 n° 53 Marseille 1948 Vétra-Berliet VBRh n° 272 ex-Paris Limoges F 1950 Limoges Vetra VBRh trolleybus 271 in 1988 1950 Vétra VA3 n° 124 Perpignan 1951 VETRA VBRH (et CS35) 1954 VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 3 axelss 1957 Vétra VBF-model trolleybus in Grenoble in 1965. This vehicle originally served the Paris trolleybus system 1959-68 VETRA BERLIET Barcelona 1963 VETRA-BERLIET VBH85 Lyon 1972 Vetra CB 60 à Limoges 1981 Vetra ELR à Saint-Étienne Lyon_trolleybus_471_in_1981 Berliet Vetra 325 JE 06 Berliet-Vetra trolleybus, of STAS (Société de Transports de l'Agglomération Stéphanoise) St Ettiene Lyon Vetra VBH85 No. 1704 Seida Pegaso 5070 Seida Pegaso 6035 SEIDA Trolleybus 3 asser Vetra TROLLEYBUS VETRA - Ligne 183 TROLLEYBUS VETRA Logo Trolleybus Vetra-2 Vetra (Carde y Escoriaza) Spanje Vetra 4.7 Vetra 29 roule sur la ligne 8-9 en direction du Jura. Vetra 30 et 26 déclassés attendent leur sort. Vetra EH87 1704 7830 LG 69 Lyon (France) Vetra sur trolleybus CB 60 Vétra VBF n° 637 ex TAG Grenoble (Colombes - France) VETRA-BERLIET VA3B2 (Badge) LYON

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SEIDA Sociedad Española de Importación y Distribución de Automóviles

Seida

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1951 Seida Metalbloc

Sociedad Española de Importación y Distribución de Automóviles (S.E.I.D.A. or, more commonly, Seida) was a Spanish cars and trucks dealer and coachbuilder that later evolved into making integral chassisless motorcoaches, and that in 1998 was subsumed into Evobus.

History

Presentació autobús Pegaso Seida

Chrysler dealer

Seida was incorporated in 1925, and began as the dealer for Spain of all the brands of Chrysler Corporation. As such, it became very well known, and in the 1930s its main showroom in Madrid, located in downtown main avenue, Gran Vía, and known as Salón Chrysler, was noted by its luxury, serving even as sporadic art gallery for some avant-garde exhibitions. By the same years, Seida opened a new rationalist repair shop and gas station building in Espronceda Street, by the renowned architect José de Azpiroz, that became a hall-mark of the modern architectural trends in Madrid.

In April 1935 Seida sponsored the show in Madrid of an american hell driver named Miller on a Plymouth car.

That same year, 1935, Seida began to assemble Chrysler’s Dodge trucks in a new plant built in Zorroza, on the docks of Bilbao. Several hundreds of them were made both before and after the Spanish Civil War.

The links with Chrysler Corporation persisted until 1969, when Chrysler Europe disembarked in Spain through the acquisition of Barreiros.

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Mobile bank office for Banco de Bilbao in a bus body built by  Seida in 1961 over a Pegaso 5040 chassis

Coachbuilder

In the 1940s, after the Spanish Civil War, Seida extended the premises in Zorroza with a new building to a Chrysler design, and switched to coachbuilding, the first bus chassis bodied being a hundred of German Klöckner units released in 1942. In those years Seida expanded its business to become shipowner, purchasing the merchant steamer Sendeja.

By the 1950s Seida lead the Spanish market of coach bodies, having patented, as Metalbloc, an all-metal body structure. By then Seida became the preferred bodybuilder for Pegaso, which was at the time the most pervasive bus and coach chassis maker in Spain. Specially memorable were its bodies for the Pegaso Z-404 coach or urban bus chassis, that used to receive a striking body which featured the same cross-shaped radiatorgrille that Touring put in its carrozzerie for the Pegaso Z-102 sports cars.

1945 autocares H-S modelo 202, carrozados por Seida para el Ejército del Aire

1945 autocares H-S modelo 202, carrozados por Seida para el Ejército del Aire

Along those years Seida other significant works were the bodies for Hispano-Suiza trolleybuses for the city of San Sebastián, Dodge two-level coaches for Iberia airliner, double-deck Guy and single-deck Pegaso buses, for the city of Madrid, and ACLO and Pegaso inter-city line coaches for Alsa. For the city of Madrid too, Seida made its most impressive bodies; namely four three-axle Vétra VA3B2 trolleybuses with GEE (General Eléctrica Española) electrical equipment.

1955 Pegaso Z-404 Seida

1955 Pegaso Z-404 Seida

Rootes and Babcock dealer

For a few years along the 50s, Seida was also dealer in Spain for the British Rootes Group car brands, and too for the short-lived Spanish-made Babcock truck.

1960 - PEGASO BUS SEIDA

1960 – PEGASO BUS SEIDA

The Kässbohrer connection

In 1963 Seida reached an agreement with German Kässbohrer to license-build Setra chassisless coaches. These were equipped with Pegaso engines and other mechanical units and were marketed with simultaneous double badge as Setra Seida and Pegaso. Initially Seida built models S14 and S10 from Setra, the first one, a full-length 12-meter 55 seat vehicle, being with a great difference the most demanded. A few years later the S154, recently launched by Setra, replaced the S14 while the S10 was discontinued.

1961 Pegaso flota tb1168 seida 9 g

1961 Pegaso flota tb1168 seida 9 g

Despite being rather expensive, these coaches were very successful in the Spanish market, to the point that Seida opened a second plant in Vigo. In the 1970s MAN, Mercedes-Benz or Cummins engines were offered as alternative power units to the Pegaso ones, and the Setra Seida and Pegaso badging was replaced by just Setra.

1961 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida

1961 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida © Isidoro Hernandez

In 1981 Seida inaugurated a new modern plant in Castro Urdiales, but soon ran into difficulties, including bitter disagreements with Kässbohrer, and suffered in the late 80s and early 90s a long and rather complex financial and legal process, which included several changes of the society registered name and ownership. The plant in Vigo meanwhile was sold to Talleres Varela Bus, a general auto repair shop.

The end

In 1998 the Castro Urdiales plant went to the hands of Daimler-Benz‘s Evobus concern and Seida successor company disappeared.

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Saurer Seida

Seida Pegaso 5070 Seida Pegaso 6035 SEIDA Trolleybus 3 asser Setra-Seida S 154 TB 1168 Pegaso 5020 Seida Z401_Seida

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